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Bought the game so long ago....

ThePompousPeasant

New Member
Is there anyway to download it? When I supported this game and team I think it was under a different name. I would love to test it and see how far the game has come.

Wishes
 

Undone

Codemaster
Stormhaven Studios
Is there anyway to download it? When I supported this game and team I think it was under a different name. I would love to test it and see how far the game has come.

Wishes
Welcome back @ThePompousPeasant ! Head over to your my account page and you should be able to access the patcher which will allow you to download the latest client. We test every Wednesday night at 8pm CST. Feel free to join us in discord as well.
 

Elloa

Administrator
Stormhaven Studios
Welcome back! It wil be great to show you all the new things and see how you enjoy the changes and progress!!
Join us on Discord, it truely is our community hub!
 

Kaerwin

Member
We test every Wednesday night at 8pm CST.
I, too, apologize for hijacking the thread...
One thing that many Americans seem to forget is that 95% of the world's population doesn't live in America. So please, if you're talking about time, don't use American time zones - use UTC. It's the worldwide standard, and was created for exactly this purpose. It means that you don't have to know your time offset relative to all of the 200+ time zones in the world - you have to know just one: your own relative to UTC.
 

Elloa

Administrator
Stormhaven Studios
I, too, apologize for hijacking the thread...
One thing that many Americans seem to forget is that 95% of the world's population doesn't live in America. So please, if you're talking about time, don't use American time zones - use UTC. It's the worldwide standard, and was created for exactly this purpose. It means that you don't have to know your time offset relative to all of the 200+ time zones in the world - you have to know just one: your own relative to UTC.
Come on Kaerwin, you know very well that I'm not american, and yet, I'm very guilty of using the CT / CET format :D (CT because we based in Austin officially, even though pratically we are over 3 continents). (Weirdly enough I found the other one to be more even more confusing....but that's just me.)
 
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Ariatras

Active Member
Come on Kaerwin, you know very well that I'm not american, and yet, I'm very guilty of using the CT / CET format :D (CT because we based in Austin officially, even though pratically we are over 3 continents). (Weirdly enough I found the other one to be more even more confusing....but that's just me.)
You are in the US ecosystem, though. Possibly even have a sleep schedule to reflect that. It's a unique privilege in a way. It's in fact the whole reason I don't play test this, or most games. Opening servers at 2 am on a week day is not feasible for me. In regards to timezones. I always have to use a converter UTC is a lot easier generally.
 

Dalton

Well-Known Member
I, too, apologize for hijacking the thread...
One thing that many Americans seem to forget is that 95% of the world's population doesn't live in America. So please, if you're talking about time, don't use American time zones - use UTC. It's the worldwide standard, and was created for exactly this purpose. It means that you don't have to know your time offset relative to all of the 200+ time zones in the world - you have to know just one: your own relative to UTC.
You are in the US ecosystem, though. Possibly even have a sleep schedule to reflect that. It's a unique privilege in a way. It's in fact the whole reason I don't play test this, or most games. Opening servers at 2 am on a week day is not feasible for me. In regards to timezones. I always have to use a converter UTC is a lot easier generally.
I mean you’d need to know the time difference once, same hours every week. Not a very difficult thing. The devs have to run the server at times that is easiest for the majority of the team.
 

Kaerwin

Member
Wednesday tests run roughly 4hrs, so midnight Central.
Central what? Central European, Central African, Central Indonesian, Central Australian, or maybe Central American? Or you could say 0600 UTC, and then we won't have to guess.
 

Undone

Codemaster
Stormhaven Studios
Central what? Central European, Central African, Central Indonesian, Central Australian, or maybe Central American? Or you could say 0600 UTC, and then we won't have to guess.
As mentioned in the weekly patch notes 8pm Central US time. And before you ask, the patch notes also show 1am UTC.
 

Kaerwin

Member
As mentioned in the weekly patch notes 8pm Central US time. And before you ask, the patch notes also show 1am UTC.
8pm Central US would be 0100 UTC only during your summer; it's 0200 UTC during your winter. Or have I got it wrong, thus proving my point that having to juggle other people's time offsets is a PITA.
 

Undone

Codemaster
Stormhaven Studios
8pm Central US would be 0100 UTC only during your summer; it's 0200 UTC during your winter. Or have I got it wrong, thus proving my point that having to juggle other people's time offsets is a PITA.
For one week during the time change yes, things can get a little goofy. However, there are many websites that will do the translation of timezones for you, not to mention we are very active in the discord alpha channel with our backers keeping them up to date on server status.

The bottom line is that our company operates out of the US Central Timezone; that is the timezone in which we schedule our meetings, run our tests, and generally live our lives. We have been running test sessions every week at the same time for more than two years now and this has never been an issue.
 

Kaerwin

Member
What follows is not intended to be nasty or abusive - it's just my honest opinion, and it's intended to be helpful.

... there are many websites that will do the translation of timezones for you ...
From where I'm sitting, this looks like you can't be bothered to conform to the rest of the world, instead expecting the rest of the world to conform to you. Frankly, that's just arrogant, and it's an attitude that appears (to a non-American) to be quite prevalent among Americans. America would probably have more friends in the world if it thought of itself as a citizen of the world rather than as the world.

The bottom line is that our company operates out of the US Central Timezone ...
Or perhaps the bottom line is that your customers operate out of (potentially) every time zone in the world. Do you want them to feel that you're making an effort to include them, or to feel that they're being punished for not living in the US?
 

Dalton

Well-Known Member
What follows is not intended to be nasty or abusive - it's just my honest opinion, and it's intended to be helpful.


From where I'm sitting, this looks like you can't be bothered to conform to the rest of the world, instead expecting the rest of the world to conform to you. Frankly, that's just arrogant, and it's an attitude that appears (to a non-American) to be quite prevalent among Americans. America would probably have more friends in the world if it thought of itself as a citizen of the world rather than as the world.


Or perhaps the bottom line is that your customers operate out of (potentially) every time zone in the world. Do you want them to feel that you're making an effort to include them, or to feel that they're being punished for not living in the US?
Take a couple minutes and set a reminder in your calendar for the time it’ll go live. I don’t live in California and Blizzard always goes off that time zone. I’m not gonna call them lazy or dumb because they don’t list my time zone I live in. Almost every game goes off where the dev team is based from. I mean once you do the math one time on the time zone. Your good forever. Except the one day every 6 months where in the US the times change.
 

Undone

Codemaster
Stormhaven Studios
What follows is not intended to be nasty or abusive - it's just my honest opinion, and it's intended to be helpful.
Likewise from my end!

From where I'm sitting, this looks like you can't be bothered to conform to the rest of the world, instead expecting the rest of the world to conform to you. Frankly, that's just arrogant, and it's an attitude that appears (to a non-American) to be quite prevalent among Americans. America would probably have more friends in the world if it thought of itself as a citizen of the world rather than as the world.
From my perspective, it appears as though you cannot be bothered to google "8pm CST to <insert your timezone of choice>". You just said "having to juggle other people's time offsets is a PITA" which is exactly what you are asking me to do. UTC is not our company's operating timezone, we do not think, nor do we operate in UTC time - which means any time I post a time, there's a pretty good chance it's going to be CST as stated earlier in this thread.

However, all of this is a mute point because every week's patch notes include both CST and UTC times. In other words, we are already doing what you are asking us to do.

Or perhaps the bottom line is that your customers operate out of (potentially) every time zone in the world. Do you want them to feel that you're making an effort to include them, or to feel that they're being punished for not living in the US?
Again, patch notes every week include UTC times in addition to our normal CST times.
 

Elloa

Administrator
Stormhaven Studios
From where I'm sitting, this looks like you can't be bothered to conform to the rest of the world, instead expecting the rest of the world to conform to you. Frankly, that's just arrogant, and it's an attitude that appears (to a non-American) to be quite prevalent among Americans. America would probably have more friends in the world if it thought of itself as a citizen of the world rather than as the world.
Stormhaven Studio is composed of 50% of Americans and 50% of non americans. We work from 3 differents continents and from 5 differents timezones. So that comment is a tiny little bit unfair. ;)
(I'm from Belgium on CET, feel free to poke me by PM on Discord whenever you need)